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Why do black women blame black men for wanting white women when they too worship white men? We, as black people, have ALL been conditioned!


Ludmilla foi clicada pela primeira vez em público na companhia namorado norte-americano Xerxes Frechiani

Singer Ludmilla with her boyfriend Xerxes Frechiani

Note from BW of Brazil: Alright, so it’s getting hot! Past posts on the topic of so many prominent black Brazilian men in relationships or married to white women are often met with comments from readers making accusations of finger-pointing, not being fair or blaming black men for the phenomenon that Afro-Brazilian women activists have labeled the “solitude of the black woman”. This blog’s position has always been that, on this particular issue, black women are the one’s who are discussing the issue and taking the time to vent and share their personal feelings on the topic in blog posts. In previous posts, this blog has also hinted at the fact that an apparent preference for whiteness in fact can be noted among black Brazilian women as well (see here and here). This issue once again came to fore with readers when they saw the story “Ana Luísa Castro becomes the second black woman to be crowned Miss World Brazil” and noted that her husband was white (1). Interestingly enough, Castro’s husband actually posted a comment on that particular post!

This blog’s position has also been that, if and when, black Brazilian males wanted to discuss the issue in thought-provoking posts beyond simple, well-worn rebuttals that “love has no color” or comments on social network sites, the piece would be welcome on this blog. This was in evidence when the article “The blaming of the black man and the racism contained in the expression “Cirilo’s Syndrome” – The debate over black identity and interracial relations rages on” was posted in September of 2015. It was also in evidence when this blog posted the piece entitled “We need to recognize our ‘palmitagem’, the preference for white skin” just four days ago. 

At this point, I would like to make it clear that as new voices continue to chime in on this topic in recognition of the fact that black Brazilians have long been taught to appreciate and desire whiteness, the vast majority of Brazilians continue to deny something that is becoming increasingly obvious for those willing to analyze the issue: romantic relationships are not formed simply based on the idea that people just fall in love. Color, class, education, financial interests, physical attraction, intelligence and so many more topics play essential roles in the formation of such unions. And whether people want to believe or deny it, the role of social engineering also cannot be excluded from the discussion. Below, we bring you a very thought-provoking essay on this issue that arose after photos of the new love of singer Ludmilla began circulating in social networks about a month ago.

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Screen save posted by Fabio Estebam of a post shared by singer Ludmilla with her boyfriend. Her comment with the photo cites a lyric from a Tupac Shakur song

What is stereotyped like the solitude of the black woman?

By Fabio Esteban

We are a kidnapped black PEOPLE. A black PEOPLE falling. An impoverished black PEOPLE. A black PEOPLE killing itself. An abandoned black PEOPLE. An alone black PEOPLE. What makes us believe that ruin in the relationships of a PEOPLE who had been enslaved concerns a gender issue?

Camila Pitanga e seu namorado Igor Angelkorte

Actress Camila Pitanga with boyfriend Igor Angelkorte

Four months have passed for me to write about this. But I think now has come a good opportunity.

I grew up in the slums watching the same TV as the sisters, playing the same things as the sisters: Elástico (elastic game), quimado (dodge ball), alerta-cor (color alert), mamãe-na-rua (mother-in-the-street), futebol, pique-esconde (hide and seek), salada-mista (kissing game), (all children’s street games) etc. It was always very difficult for a brother to hook up with a preta (black girl). Why? Because they always preferred the branquinho (white boy) out there (we call “out there” locations outside of the favela (slum), usually on the main track, the asphalt in general). That is, just like the black man, the black woman also chooses.

Erika Januza com o goleiro Edu Alves

Actress Erika Januza with boyfriend, futebol goalie Edu Alves

The sisters often preferred the branquinho out there, or often the branquinho from the inside: The son of the sacolão (neighborhood fruit and vegetable market) owner, the son of the owner of the bar, the son of haberdashery owner, the son of the boss lady etc. We are tired of seeing the sisters, in adolescence, coming back taking a ride in the Biz (moped), in the car or on foot with the branquelo pálido (pale white boy) that left them in the village gate, alley or home. The sisters were keen to even flaunt them.

Fábio Vaz, marido de Marina Silva

Politician Marina Silva with husband Fábio Vaz

Before continuing, I would like to point out what I’m writing all this to warn: The black woman is AS MUCH a victim of racism and at the same time with their own assemblages AS the black man.

Gaby Amarantos  namorado o cineasta inglês Gareth Jones

Singer Gaby Amarantos with boyfriend, British filmmaker Gareth Jones

And this situation of the favelas often continued into adulthood. Well: I quoted the TV. We, homens negros (black men) learned on TV that the ideal type of woman is branca (white), loira (blonde), olhos claros (light-colored eyes). It’s on the TV, in the movies and newspapers. And the mulher negra (black woman)? Haven’t you learned the same thing since childhood? What is your Prince Charming like? Who are the protagonists of the novelas (soap operas) that they watch? Who are the muses of Malhação novela (soap opera)? What are the heroes that they learn to admire like? The women’s magazines like Capricho teach you to be attracted to what kind of man?

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Actress Aline Wirley with husband actor Igor Rickli

Anyway, in order for the publication not to be long, what I have to say is that the black woman is a victim in this whole story (I’m not removing her from her own diligence). The mulher preta (black woman) does not seek the white man because she is abandoned by the black man. She searches for the homem branco (white man) because she was taught by the media, the school and the family. She grows up personally and seeing on TV the black man connected to negative examples or of low perspective.

Ildi Silva namorado Regis Campos

Actress Ildi Silva with boyfriend Regis Campos

“But black men ascend socially and …” And what? Is every black man a singer? Is every black man a jogador de futebol (soccer player)? Has the exception became the rule now? If we had this whole myth of ascended black men, was it not for a minority to continue poor then? The population of black woman is SUPERIOR to black men.

Quitéria Chagas e marido italiano Francesco Locati

Carnaval dancer Quitéria Chagas and Italian husband Francesco Locati

It is mathematically impossible for the black woman being abandoned (I am not disparaging experiences, case-by-case. This is another 500. What I mean is: Enter a favela tomorrow to find out what the very IBGE has proven: most black men are in relationships with black women.)

Jeniffer Nascimento com o namorado, Jean Amorim

Jeniffer Nascimento with boyfriend Jean Amorim

If they were to take the case-by-case to push the bar here, I appeal for: LET WHOEVER DOESN’T KNOW A BLACK WOMAN WHO SAYS: “IT’S ALREADY ENOUGH THAT I’M BLACK”, CAST THE FIRST STONE.

Juliana Alves com o namorado, Guilherme Duarte

Actress Juliana Alves with boyfriend Guilherme Duarte

What I mean by this post is not a contradiction that: “Jeez, Renato! You said last week not to criticize our own, because whites don’t do this.” No. I’m not criticizing Ludmilla. For me she is a victim and is using her own agency in choosing the white man. Ludmilla has a complete condition of choosing a black man. Retinto (dark-skinned). But as much by that “Hoje” videoclip (we pointed the stick at Nego do Borel last week) (2) and now in love, she chooses white men.

Leilah Moreno e o marido, Luis Roberto Arruda

Singer Leilah Moreno with boyfriend Luis Roberto Arruda

She suffers from racism in all forms: She wears contact lenses. Straightens her hair. She had a nose job. And she’s with a pálido (pale face). She wouldn’t do any of this if it weren’t for racism. So the post is not to criticize her or sisters who also palmitam (prefer whites). But to call attention that this is another WHITE strategy of segregating. To postpone our unity. To postpone the racial debate. It is not surprising that just black people have so many trivialities, while for brancas (white women) it’s all just right?

Luciano Mello e marido Ike Levy

Singer Luciana Mello with husband Ike Levy

‘There is no’ Solidão da Mulher Negra (Loneliness of the Black Woman). What exists is self-hatred. What exists is a range of black women in college who do not realize they are the extreme majority in relation to the small population of black men in college, who often don’t even complete the courses. Most brothers are still on the grind, in exploratory work, outside the college environment. Go to the favela and see who generally has stable employment. Who usually has the highest salary. It’s totally different from the asphalt.

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Lucy Ramos with husband Thiago Luciano

The ones who have more conditions to enter college are sisters. And many of these, unfortunately, victims of self-hate, prefer to claim abandonment, to going up the hill after some of the thousands of black single men who are there. Because a black man who is not academic, isn’t good enough. Am I’m lying?

Marido de Preta Gil, Rodrigo Godoy

Preta Gil and husband Rodrigo Godoy

We also slip up! With so many mina preta (black girls) in college, we don’t even go to the slum to choose a sister. You will smell the white woman’s ass. There is self-hatred, brothers, listen up. Why don’t we discuss these futilities? Because we don’t know our own history.

Michel Melamed com a atriz e cantora Thalma de Freitas

Actress/singer Thalma de Freitas with Michel Melamed

The Japanese suffered abuse, but didn’t lose their own history. Jews suffered abuse, but didn’t lose their own history. All this confusion in which Black people find themselves is simply because our history was torn from us.

Nayara Justino marido Cairo Jardim

Nayara Justino with husband Cairo Jardim

And as long as we don’t go in search of it, of our self-knowledge, we will continue banging our heads, making sub-agendas and sub-sub-agendas to remain in the misunderstanding among ourselves. We are a lost people because we don’t know our true history. In the same moral. We prefer to be with those who enslaved us. In the same moral.

Olivier Anquier e Adriana Alves

Actress Adriana Alves with French husband Olivier Anquier

I repeat: The favela is full of single brothers. Have a good week.

Edit: The title refers to what is reduced to the debate of the loneliness of the black woman: Abandonment or refusal of the black man. There are many more black women than black men in Brazil, and black men are addicted to cachaça, in jail or being killed every day.

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Actress Vanessa Pascale (right) with her French husband, Jean.

It is mathematically impossible for this gap to be balanced. Criticism of the post is for the aims and misconceptions that are made in this discussion, whose theme has everything to do with racism, with the discussion of racism, extermination, eugenics. And not with gender.

Patrícia Dejesus e o namorado, o modelo Fábio Luiz

Actress/model Patrícia Dejesus with boyfriend, model Fábio Luiz

It is not a gender issue this gap of black men and black women. It is extermination. And White Supremacy proves once again that its plan is always fulfilled: Here we are in combat. When we say that the black woman is in solitude even when married to the black man, are we not therefore talking about a loneliness that is of both, thus creating the solitude of a BLACK PEOPLE, not a gender? What is lacking in realizing that we are ignoring, COMPLETELY, all of our process of Historic Colonization, Kidnapping and Enslavement?

Sheron Menezes e o namorado Saulo Bernard

Actress Sheron Menezes with boyfriend Saulo Bernard

This reductionism to loving relationships hinders the very discussion of what such solitude would be.

Valéria Valenssa marido Hans

Valéria Valenssa with German husband Hans Donner

Note: I am taking into consideration lesbian and gay brothers and sisters.

Note from BW of Brazil: It goes without saying that Fabio Estebam touched on a number of important issues in his essay. I am not certain how well this piece circulated on social networks but I knew as soon it was sent to me that it needed to be posted on this blog. Now that we have material coming forth written by black men chiming in on this topic, there are more questions that should be addressed in the future. But there are a few things I would like to point out in regards to the piece above.

One. Many black men point out the fact that numerically, the majority of black Brazilian men (considered the combination of pretos and pardos/black and brown men) are in fact married to black women (considered the combination of pretas and pardas/black and brown women). Overall this remains true, but this this is mostly due to the fact pardo men, a group about six times larger than preto men, are mostly married to parda women. In the case of black men (homens pretos), 26.4% are married to white women (brancas), only 39.9% are married to black women (pretas) and 32.1% are married to brown women (pardas). This stat demonstrates that 58% of black men have wives that have lighter skin than they. 

Two. As a whole, as of 2010, 69% of Brazilians are married to partners of the same color. But this number has continuously decreased in the last 25 years or so and a large number of those same color unions include couples who have been married for several decades. If we break down the numbers by age groups, we will surely see an explosion of interracial unions in the age brackets of, say, 21-35 and 36-45. These younger couples are perhaps where black women are seeing increasing numbers of black men choosing to have relationships with non-black women. 

Three. I’m not completely convinced by simple stats that show that the majority of black men are married to black women. Why? Not negating the fact that people DO fall in love with each other, sometimes (often times?) people marry people that they most likely have a chance of courting. Let’s be real: what chance does a poor, black man sweeping the streets have at courting and marrying a white woman of a middle to upper class background? I make this point also thinking about the numerous cases we’ve all seen of black futebol players who dated a black woman all the while they were poor but the moment they came into that huge contract, they immediately traded her for a bleach blond.

But be that as it may, we can clearly see that Estebam’s view that black women also have a ‘thing’ for white men may be just as debate-worthy of such accusations leveled against black men. Some will argue that the women posted in the photos above represent just women from the entertainment world. But I would argue that 1) women in the entertainment world often come from the everyday world and simply carry their beliefs and preferences into the world of entertainment and 2) like actresses and singers, I could also point out a number of black women social activists who are also married to white men. The question at that point would be a) do black Brazilian women date/marry white men because they have been rejected by black men? b) do they also choose love regardless of color (but sometimes subconsciously favor whiteness) and just happen to ‘click’ with a man who happens to be white? c) do they have preferences for white men? or d) after having dated various black men and having been consistently mistreated, they sought love with men of other races?

These questions must in all fairness must asked of black women who point the finger of abandonment at black men. But the question that is perhaps the most important for black women who write about the ‘solitude of the black woman’ is: if white men were to fill the void apparently left by black men, would the question of solitude be over and done with? In other words, if more white men were marrying black women, would there be no concern for black people constructing relationships and families among themselves? If the answer were to be ‘yes’, then black women would be just as guilty in the ongoing process of the embranquecimento (whitening) of the black population as black men.

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“Palmitagem”: A black man has a relationship with a white woman, he’s labeled a palmiteiro – A black woman has a relationship with a white man, this is no problematization”

The final point I would bring out here is that no ones knows for sure what drives these relationships and even if one were to ask these people point blank, with certainty, we would most likely hear a variation of the ‘love has no color’ response, ie, ‘I don’t choose people because of color’ and that while this may sometimes be true, as I’ve asked before, if Brazil had never openly stated its goal of encouraging black Brazilians to whiten themselves through interracial unions, would there be so interracial unions in the country and especially among famous blacks? One doesn’t see an equal number of famous/rich white Brazilians married to black Brazilians. In fact, in page after page of entertainment-based magazines, we see that this parcel of the population overwhelmingly marries other white people.

In other words, as much as we would like to believe that the ‘handsome, white Prince Charming’ doesn’t play a role in the romantic choices of black Brazilian women, as I chose the names of the women whose photos I posted above, I thought to myself, ‘I wouldn’t be surprised if her partner were white’. All of the women featured in the above photos are women who have been featured in posts on this blog, and in searching for them, I discovered that at least a few of them had been in various relationships with white men. The photos are by no means meant to be an accurate representation of their current relationship status; some of them may in fact have broken up or moved on to other partners while others are long-term. I say this to say, again, the adoration of whiteness cannot be strictly placed upon the shoulders of black Brazilian men.

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“Ludmilla is dating an American producer, confirms businessman” – Ego, March 17, 2016. “Ludmilla receives visit from American boyfriend on her birthday.” R7, April 27, 2016

Going even further on this topic, in Brazil (past and present) one will note a very obvious appreciation for foreign things. Foreign perfumes. Foreign clothes. Foreign food. If one speaks fluent English, not only do they have an advantage in the job market, but they are seen as being slightly above other Brazilians socially, especially if they’ve traveled outside of the country. As such, it should come as no surprise that in the photos above, some of the men are not only white, but of foreign origin. In a previous post,  Flávia Simas opined how, in Brazil, “the European gringo is more celebrated than foreigners from other parts of the world.” This premium also applies to white American men. We saw a bit of this idea of the foreigner being “better” when singer Ludmilla went public with her relationship with her new love as many websites published the fact that he was an ‘americano’ in their headlines. It is yet another example of the so-called “complexo do vira-lata”, which writer Nelson Rodrigues described as the inferiority complex that Brazilians feel in comparison to peoples of other countries. 

For some, this inferiority complex was rooted in simply a perceived ignorance of the Brazilian people, while others connected it to the country being located in the tropics. But still other social scientists of the 1920s and 1930s connected this inferiority directly to the issue of race, seeing the Brazilian people, a mixture of the three original races, as being forever genetically inferior to the ‘superior’ white race (3). Applying this complex to the ideas of nationality and race, we can further imagine that there are those white Brazilians who never quite feel secure in their whiteness on a global level as it is estimated that nearly 90% of the Brazilian population carries at least a few drops of African and/or indigenous blood in their veins. But yet and still,  these white Brazilians are still the standard for which all Brazilians are measured.

So if it is true that all Brazilians are victims of the “complexo do vira-lata”, imagine the stigma attached to blackness in the hierarchy. And even more, as we live in a sexist society, imagine the place of the black woman. As generations of black families have been indoctrinated with the idea of “improving the race” through miscegenation and by whitening their offspring, this desired degree of whiteness also has a hierarchy. As such, if mating and procreating with a white Brazilian man is considered an accomplishment, with the “complexo do vira-lata” at play, imagine the value placed upon the securing of a white European or American man. 

With all of this in mind, I find it fitting to conclude with the fictitious belief among millions of Brazilians that “we are all equal”. A belief that I would say the majority knows isn’t true, but in maintaining the ‘racial democracy’ myth, we must at least pretend to believe it is true (and possibly fool others into believing it). In considering the fact that black men and black women of Brazil were and are equally immersed in the idea of white supremacy, there is no use in pointing the finger at only the black man who pursues the white woman; for the myth that is white supremacy has indoctrinated us all and as such, we are palmiteiros (4). All of us.

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  1. Similar comments were made about dancer/actress Nayara Justino upon discovery that her husband was white. (See comment here). Back in February, in a conversation with a contact in the advertising industry, after watching the short documentary about Nayara by The Guardian, one man (who considers himself negro or black), revealed that he was shocked after seeing everything Justino went through with racism and still ended up marrying a white guy.
  2. Black singer who was heavily criticized for using a white model in his upcoming music video and referring to her as “minha pretinha” (my little black girl).
  3. Among numerous other works detailing this sentiment, see See Giarola, Flávio Raimundo. “Racismo e teorias raciais no século XIX: Principais noções e balanço historiográfico”. História e História. August, 2010
  4. A black person who prefers white people for romantic relationships

21 comments on “Why do black women blame black men for wanting white women when they too worship white men? We, as black people, have ALL been conditioned!

  1. Wayne Gio
    June 1, 2016

    Back in the day during segregation in the United States many blacks and whites where not allowed to marry each other.

    Today is different i have seen many interacial relationships and interacial marriages i think its a good thing people seeing you from the inside not from the outside.

    • Silvia
      August 19, 2016

      Agree.. the point is not why black people are dating white people.. the real problem is .. why are is this an issue? because in the black comunity relies the problem.. the idea of lighter skin and “better hair” for ur prole … or better oportunities.. but if its love im happy about it.. i my self dated both black and white.. and both times it was from the heart … and well personal preferences shouldnt an issue.. the only issue is not having to be ashamed to like someone who is different or equal.. the only answer os love. im mixed race, and if my grandpa and grandma werent strong enough to fight for each other i wouldnt be alive.. so yeah.. interracial couples.. none interracial couples.. u just have to love each other 🙂

      • gatasnegrasbrasileiras
        August 19, 2016

        This issue has been addressed in a number of posts and if you haven’t read any let me share a few of my views.

        1) In terms of simple humanity and love, there is in fact nothing wrong with interracial relationships.

        2) But when mixed marriages are promoted as a means for the destruction of one of the races (as in Brazil), according to United Nation’s own definition, this constitutes a form of genocide.

        3) Politically, widespread miscegenation has been one of the reasons for the downfall and undermining of the black race since at least Ancient Egypt.

        4) Unity is the only way that black people as a group will be able to ascend socially, economically and politically. And the first step in that unity is that from which first created black people: the unity between black men and black women.

        I would have to say that if you disagree with this, politically, then you cannot say you are fully in support of any sort of black power.

        You can either stand for “black power” or you stand for “we are the world” and unfortunately, you cannot support both as there will always arise situations in which you must state and stand by your allegiances.

  2. Amon
    June 1, 2016

    Another Great Article!!

    Thank you for exposing this truth. Everyday I see that Brazil is so so sooooo similar to the US. The one thing that I will say that is often wrong is the comparative notion that Black women here in America don’t want white men. Black women here treat white men like GODS and most black women would quickly date a white man and show him off if they could. Black American women just like many Black Brazilian women pray day and night that God will bless them with a white man.

    The difference between the US and Brazil is that in Brazil most white men will date a Black Woman if she is a “mulatta” or has “cabelo cacheada”. However in the US if you ask a white man if he is interested in Black Women he will say that he will fuck but never in a million years will he ever date a black woman. I have many white acquaintances who have secretly told me these exact words behind closed doors.

    Only when a black woman is famous like Beyonce, or Tyra Banks and has a million dollars will white men express interest in black women. But, you will never see a white man go to the ghetto or hood to pick a girlfriend just like you will never see a branquinho doing anything near the favela except look for a “sex worker”.

    Also I have this assumption and you can tell me if I am right or wrong:

    Most of the black women in Brazil who do happen to date white men only do so for a brief period of time before being dumped for a white girl, who he will eventually marry. I have seen this happen almost 10 trillion times here in the US and apparently Black women in both North and South America fail to realize that in white supremacy it is always: BRANCA PARA CASAR.

    White men at the end of the day will never betray their loyalty to white women for black women.

    • gatasnegrasbrasileiras
      June 1, 2016

      A lot of similarities going on here. In my view, the black community in the US is headed down the same road as Brazil. One can note an ongoing conflict going on between black American men and women. My question is: which way black America? Either unite or it’s over!!

      In terms of your question…”Most of the black women in Brazil who do happen to date white men only do so for a brief period of time before being dumped for a white girl, who he will eventually marry.”

      One hears a lot of stories of this in the streets and some of the stories on the blog have made reference to this. Unfortunately, for many black Brazilian women, black men are the same or worse than white men!

    • Wayne Gio
      June 1, 2016

      AMON I KNOW THAT YOUR AN AFRICAN AMERICAN ALSO AMON LIKE I SAID BEFORE MANY BRAZILIANS FROM THE SOUTH OF BRAZIL WOULD EASILY PASS FOR WHITE IN THE UNITED STATES LIKE A HOT KNIFE TROUGH FROZEN BUTTER WANT PROOF ???????

      YOU THINK THE UNITED STATES WAS THE ONLY COUNTRY TO RECIEVE GERMAN AND ITALIAN IMMIGRANTS ????

      BRAZIL RECIEVED ALLOT OF EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS

      • Amon
        June 1, 2016

        I spent a lot of time in the states of Parana and Santa Catarina during my last trip to Brazil earlier this year. I have been to southern Brazil and most of the people there look like Mexicans to me. I live in CA a state in the US with a huge Mexican population.

        Yes I did see some people in the south who looked white, but in white American culture how you look means absolutely nothing. You could look 100% white but still be classified as black or latino here if they know that your ancestors mixed.

        I am very tired of explaining this to you and I will never respond to you again. You are a white supremacist troll that wants to destroy this black space dedicated to black women in Brazil.

        I hope they ban you from this blog.

    • reynagirl14
      August 11, 2017

      Ain’t that the truth.

  3. Bamabrasileira
    June 1, 2016

    I think most black women would prefer to date a black man. Unfortunately, the more successful black women become, the fewer black men we have to choose from who are at a similar level financially or at least in terms of education. Then the media tells us that we are picky hoes because we aren’t lining up to marry the guy who either doesn’t earn enough money to contribute to creating a stable future, or, who can’t really have the types of discussions with about we like to do because he lacks the education or interest. Lots of men live in a state of denial and insist that they are truly OK with having a women who is more educated than him or who makes more money than him. But the truth is that these men – at least the ones in the black community – tend to be emotionally immature, or they feell emasculated by her success and turn into big ole dicks! Unfortunately, systemic racism is hardest on black men, but successful black women want what everyone else wants. We want to be valued and respected – ideally by a black man who has the ability to give us this. If one is not available, then we gotta settle for a white dude.

  4. Breanna Nouveaux
    June 1, 2016

    When black women were known as struggling obese single mothers from 2009-2013, did anyone in the black community care as much to compile data proving the opposite ? When black women were lambasted for decades by black males for being undesirable, loud and horrible choices…where was the care then? You mean to tell me that women who would more than likely be considered ugly, ghetto and any host of other names if they were single, are now all of a sudden at the top of our worry list?

    The vast majority of black women worldwide live in vast poverty and sexual abuse like no other, at the hands of black males and we are worried about happy married black women because their men are not black? Most successful black men make it known to the public for the past century that black women were not good enough for them. Why are black women quickly chastised for doing what black males have been doing for decades?

    • Amon
      June 1, 2016

      This is what I am talking about. Another American sister that wants to make an excuse for her passionate desire to be with a white man. It is so sad how so many black women religiously beg to be with a white man. White men control the media so all of the negative stereotypes about black women come from them and not black men.

      Breanna, in America. black men are made out to be the devil and the source of all evil by radical black feminists. I’m not going to even get started about the false dead beat dad propaganda perpetuated by white supremacists and black feminists in the 60s 70s and 80s that still exist today. Even when black men are the best fathers by race. Multiple studies prove this: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/01/16/3175831/myth-absent-black-father/

      If you love white men so much, go be with them and do so with dignity. But all that we black men asks is to leave us alone and stop trying to insult our name with these lies.

  5. Breanna Nouveaux
    June 1, 2016

    No one cares about the condition of black people until black women are happy.

  6. Breanna Nouveaux
    June 1, 2016

    I made comments here earlier, was it erased? If so, why?

    • gatasnegrasbrasileiras
      June 1, 2016

      Hi Breanna!

      No your comments weren’t deleted. I’ve only recently had a chance to read them and approve them.

      Thanks for sharing your position.

      Here is what you should realize in terms of this most recent post on the topic of the “solitude of the black woman”.

      1. There are NUMEROUS posts on this blog in regards to this issue and, for the most part, they present the views of black women who bare their feelings on the topic.

      2. This article was not intended as a “finger-pointing”, “blame the black woman” piece. As pointed out in my first comment, the views of various black women have been well-presented here. The latest post was written by a man who felt the need to balance the debate, so to speak. He merely wanted to show that neither side has room to finger-point as BOTH sides have been equally indoctrinated to appreciating whiteness over their own color/ethnicity.

      3. In fact, in many of studies I’ve read speaking of post-abolition Brazil, it was in fact the black woman who took advantage of opportunities to have lighter-skinned offspring with recent arriving European immigrants. Every black man didn’t have an opportunity to have relations with white women, but white male European immigrants often had their pick of black women they may have wanted, either for long-lasting relationships or simple sexual trysts in which he abandoned the woman even if she had a child from the encounter.

      4. If anything, I think it should be analyzed how black Brazilian women, even after centuries of exploitation, abuse, rape and the breast-feeding of white children, still had the desire to have relationships and children with white men while many black American women developed a strong dislike for the white man. Just a question that would need investigation into the differences in Portuguese and British treatment of their captives.

      This is a debate that needs to be had. But the objective here is not to belittle either side but rather open the dialogue so that black men and women can see what is happening and analyze some of the obstacles and causes of such disunity.

      • Amon
        June 1, 2016

        Good response I will just say that the notion that black american women have a strong dislike for white men is a giant myth. We need to unify as one black family, however the truth must be told on all sides.

      • Natalie
        June 5, 2016

        Interracial relationships in Brazil seem to be complicated. I don’t think that it does any good to compare the situation of Black women pursuing interracial relationships in Brazil to the Black women in America that are doing the same. At first glance, it may seem similar, but it’s entirely different. All I know is whatever the case I will always be there for my Black Brazilian sisters. Life is too tough to hate on one another.

  7. Paula
    June 1, 2016

    You forget to mention London England, which has the highest population of black men dating white women. England has a large mixed race population.

    • Mike
      June 1, 2016

      London England also has alot of Black British women dating White British men too.
      So i think its more of a general thing in England.

      • Pat
        June 2, 2016

        And they use that race mixing like Brazil does to try and prove that racism doesn’t exist which is nothing but a bold face lie.Having access to one group romantically or sexually does not
        negate racism or white supremacys existence.

  8. mandumeyandemufayo
    June 16, 2016

    The fact is that white hegemony will end when WE decide to end it. One of the things we have to do as Neely Fuller Jr. says is to STOP associating with the enemy in private. Obviously we all have to work, and everyone can’t just create a black owned business that employs other blacks at the whim, but in order to ensure that we don’t get confused, is to keep our interaction with non-black people to a minimum in private.

    Unfortunately, black people are the only ones who don’t understand that your socio-economic status depends on how much you’re willing to work with your own in order to prosper & thrive. You’d think that 180+ years after slavery would be sufficient enough. Apparently, it is not.

  9. In brazil
    December 25, 2016

    Wow, now I discover some of the bs anti interracial crap that you spew to justify your anti interracial union political economic weak rationalisations ..

    Sounds like people need some sex…you answer most of your rationalisations , but then rationalize that, like , it just a fact most black Brazilian men are with black Brazilian women , you try to contend that with a slew of manipulated statistics…

    A un study? I don’t trust a un study…the whitening thing the government pushed ? Not very strong …where are the massive add campaigns about it? Did people really take it seriously ? In all honesty , where there are lots of mixed people I don’t see many actual afro descendants and white couples and unions on the street…a high percentage of black and white Brazilians have Indian mix also…

    Most pathetic attempts to psycho analise this , especialy you , are more psych out than valid, psychiatry is not hard science and is more western voodoo than have any real validity …

    This sounds like more disgruntledness from people who need to step up their game to get mates…

    Colorization is real , media white brainwash is real, hair issues real , but , hair issues hardly translate into interracial unions. You have to have guts to deal with interracial unions, exactly because of pathetic scrutinizing by people like you and the white racists….if a person enters into interracial unions for the wrong reasons , and it will fail fast…intra racial unions have all the same dynamics except color, who are you trying to fool?

    Interracial unions will have no affect on black economic power , on fair employment for black people or police violence towards black people…only the over intellectual ised , university haze , mixed with sexual insecurity chumps try to push this bs

    Oh yeah , it’s easy to pick on celebrities , you even tried to rationalize that…

    In short, how consenting adults decide who they want to hook up with , is really quite frankly none of your business, and your pathetic opinion weakens your other positions, it certainly taints your positions…you all interracial union scrutinisers badly need to get a life…

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